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 Pastors and Staff  
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Mac Schafer
Pastor & Head of Staff

Mac has served as pastor & head of staff at HMPC for 14 years. He has his Doctor of Ministry from Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, a Masters of Divinity from Princeton Theological Seminary, and a BA from Elon College in Psychology.  He has been a pastor in the Presbyterian Church (USA) for 25 years. He has served congregations in Arizona, New Jersey, Florida, and Belfast, Northern Ireland.  He is married to Katy (who works at First Presbyterian Church in Raleigh) and they have four adult children.  Mac loves to work in his yard, read history, draw, laugh at New Yorker & Far Side cartoons, walk labyrinths, cook breakfast sandwiches, get some form of physical activity into his day, and treat his cats like dogs. He is a life long learner and a trained spiritual director.  Mac has been on four pilgrimages since 2016:  The Camino Frances (x2), the Camino Portuguese, and the via Francigena.  He serves as one of the co-coordinator of American Pilgrims on the Camino - Raleigh Chapter.

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Dr. Debbie Kirk
Associate Pastor for Spiritual Growth and Nurture

Debbie Kirk joined the staff of HMPC in January 2005.  She is a native Floridian and as a lifelong Presbyterian grew up spending summers at Montreat, where she regularly attends conferences and retreats. She is a graduate of Maryville College and received her Master of Divinity from Columbia Theological Seminary. She holds a Master of Arts in Christian Education and Doctor of Ministry in Pastoral Theology from Union Presbyterian Seminary. Debbie has served Christian Educator, Associate Pastor, Interim Pastor and Interim Campus Minister.  At HMPC she facilitates adult ministry, mission, and congregational care. She has been the Moderator of New Hope Presbytery and the Presbytery Coordinating Body. She served as a Commissioner to General Assembly in 2020 and is a Co-Moderator of the Committee on Preparation for Ministry.  Sabbatical time has included journeys to Turkey, Ireland, Jordan, Israel and Italy on biblical and spiritual pilgrimages. For relaxation Debbie enjoys traveling, entertaining with family and friends, walking with her dog, and reading a good book on the beach.

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Aleta Ash
Part-time Minister of Visitation

Aleta is a retired pastor and is pleased to be able to assist in providing pastoral care to the Hudson congregation. She served as a chaplain and pastor in Topeka KS and as pastor of Milner Memorial here in Raleigh. She is a graduate of Emory University where she received her BS in nursing. She considers her 22 years as a nurse in public health, geriatrics and hospice as a wonderful preparation for the ministry. She obtained her Masters of Divinity degree from St. Paul School of Theology in Kansas City and has been ordained in the PCUSA for 24 years. She and her husband Ron moved to Raleigh in 2007 and he is a member of Hudson.  They have 3 children and 4 grandchildren and enjoy spending as much time with them as possible.  Aleta likes to read, walk the greenways, draw and write, eat Ron's wonderful cooking, and loves to laugh.  Keep your faith and your sense of humor is her motto.

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Rich Richards
Director of Youth Ministries and Children's Music

Rich has served in youth, recreation, music and creative arts ministries in the Presbyterian Church (USA) for over 25 years. He has written curricula for Montreat Youth Conferences, online devotions for “ d365” and was the author of the 2010 and co-author of the 2013 Presbyterian Youth Triennium (PYT) Small Group Manual. Rich has the “Theology in Youth Ministry” certificate from Princeton Theological Seminary and holds degrees in music and art history from The College of Wooster, The Cleveland Institute of Music and the Hochschüle für Musik in Munich, Germany. He enjoys rowing, cycling, cooking, painting and hanging out with his sons Bogen and Olsen, and wife, Lindsey.

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Cary Dickerson
Director of Children and Family Ministries

Cary is originally from Indiana, but has called North Carolina home for more than 25 years.  She graduated from NC State with degrees in psychology and criminology.  She has taught at Hudson Memorial Preschool for the past 7 years.  She and her husband Daniel have been members of Hudson since 2009.  During this time she has served on Session, the Mission Committee, Children’s Committee, and coordinated VBS for the past several years.  She and Daniel have three children: Kessler, Kate, and James.  In her free time she enjoys watching football, volunteering, and spending time with her family and their dog Twyla. 

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Barbara Loehr-Fox
Director of Music Ministries

Barbara is a native Floridian who has served churches in Illinois, New York, Mississippi and South Carolina. She started her church ministry as both a musician and Christian Educator. She holds a Bachelor of Music degree in Voice Performance from the University of Florida and a Master of Music degree in Choral Conducting from the University of Illinois. For over 30 years, Barbara has enjoyed making music with children, youth and adults in both sacred and secular venues. In her spare time, she enjoys travelling, throwing pots, playing with her 2 little rescue dogs and spending time with her husband, Winter. 

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Erica Hairston
Business Administrator

Erica Hairston joined the HMPC staff in August 2023 as the Business Administrator. She was born and raised in Texas, where she attended Baylor University and graduated with a degree in Theology & Ethics. Prior to landing at HMPC, she worked at churches her entire career in youth, admin, and financial capacities. In her spare time, she enjoys reading, playing pickleball, going to the movies, and the great outdoors (when it's below ninety degrees). Two fun facts about her are that she has been to over 25 countries and written 3 novels. Her partner, Julianne, is also a writer; she teaches at a local elementary school and can beat almost anyone in HORSE.

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Lisa Flint-Morris
Accounting Coordinator

Lisa is originally from Illinois, and has lived in North Carolina since 2003. She is a graduate of Iowa State University, and earned a master’s degree from UNCG. She has a heart for volunteerism, which led her into the accounting field through nonprofit volunteer roles. When she isn’t crunching numbers, Lisa loves to hike, kayak, watch Friends reruns, follow March Madness, laugh and sip on a good coffee. She lives in Wake Forest with her husband, Ryan, and their three children. 

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Lesley Ash Jacobsen
Communications Coordinator

In addition to her role at HMPC, Lesley has been a freelance illustrator, animator, and graphic designer since 2004. She has an MFA from the University of Cincinnati, a BA from Hastings College, and served as an Artist-in-Residence in Budapest, Hungary.  Before relocating to Raleigh in 2020, she lived in New York City and worked in the fashion industry for 15 years. She and her husband are members of Hudson, and she sings in the Hudson choir.

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Al Hyde
Organist

Al began as the Organist at HMPC in January 2022. He has 30 years of experience playing organ and piano, and serving as music director at various churches.

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Hope Parangi
Church Hostess

Hope grew up in Ridgefield Park N.J. where she was a member of the First Presbyterian Church. She transferred her membership to Hudson shortly after moving to Raleigh in 1995. She and her husband Max have two daughters and 1 son. She is a Deacon, and active with promoting and taking care of the labyrinth. Hope had worked for many years in the Hudson Memorial Preschool.  Hope has continued to enjoy working with children and has been employed at Highland Childrens Center for the past 5 years. She has her Teaching Credentials thorough NCDCDEE from Hayward Community College.

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Dorothy Roche
Preschool Director

Dorothy is a Raleigh native, raised right here in North Hills and graduated from Elon College, now known as Elon University. She has worked in early childhood development in various roles since 2003. Dorothy has a "hands on" style and loves interacting with the children, families and teachers. In her free time Dorothy loves to cook, read, listen to podcast and spend time with her family.

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Joyce Hawkins
Preschool Assistant Director

Joyce Hawkins joined the HMPC family as Assistant Preschool Director in February 2002. Joyce grew up in Malaysia, and graduated from Purdue University. Joyce and her husband, Jeff, have a daughter and son.

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